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					<description>Ciao Marco Calviani. Guarda, hai ragione. Io ho spremuto il sito della Acoustical Society of America fino a che non ho trovato il codice 5aPA che era il codice del loro intervento al meeting l'8 giugno 2007. In seguito ho trovato questo articolo generico di una intervista dove Symko fornisce qualche dato aggiuntivo:

http://www.aip.org/pnu/2007/split/828-1.html

In breve: &quot;Symko says a ballpark range of 10-25% of the heat gets converted into sound in typical situations. The piezoelectric crystals then convert about 80-90% of the sound energy into electrical energy.&quot;

Bye. digit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ciao Marco Calviani. Guarda, hai ragione. Io ho spremuto il sito della Acoustical Society of America fino a che non ho trovato il codice 5aPA che era il codice del loro intervento al meeting l&#8217;8 giugno 2007. In seguito ho trovato questo articolo generico di una intervista dove Symko fornisce qualche dato aggiuntivo:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.aip.org/pnu/2007/split/828-1.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href='http://www.aip.org/pnu/2007/split/828-1.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.aip.org/pnu/2007/split/828-1.html</a></a></p>
	<p>In breve: &#8220;Symko says a ballpark range of 10-25% of the heat gets converted into sound in typical situations. The piezoelectric crystals then convert about 80-90% of the sound energy into electrical energy.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Bye. digit.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ciao digit,
   non so cosa dirti: tuttavia bisognerebbe vedere l'efficienza di questi apparati ed il loro funzionamento specifico. 
Ovviamente in un &quot;media press&quot; questi dettagli sono omessi (non se volontariamente o meno); ho provato a cercare su riviste specializzate (tutte quelle che fanno riferimento all' Elsevier e alle Physical Review + Science e Nature) ma non ho trovato nulla che si riferisse all'argomento. 
Se riesci a trovare qualcosa si specifico, proviamo a commentare su quello.

ciao,
m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ciao digit,<br />
   non so cosa dirti: tuttavia bisognerebbe vedere l&#8217;efficienza di questi apparati ed il loro funzionamento specifico.<br />
Ovviamente in un &#8220;media press&#8221; questi dettagli sono omessi (non se volontariamente o meno); ho provato a cercare su riviste specializzate (tutte quelle che fanno riferimento all&#8217; Elsevier e alle Physical Review + Science e Nature) ma non ho trovato nulla che si riferisse all&#8217;argomento.<br />
Se riesci a trovare qualcosa si specifico, proviamo a commentare su quello.</p>
	<p>ciao,<br />
m
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Non potrebbe anche essere la soluzione del secolo per le nostre centrali elettriche che si fermano quando l'acqua dei fiumi si esaurisce?

Un sistema a circolo chiuso con questi aggeggi che raffreddano tutta o solo parte dell'acqua di raffreddamento dopo l'uso e la reimmettono in circolo?

In questo modo le pretese di raffreddamento di tutti gli impianti elettrici (non solo nucleari) verrebbe ridimensionata e forse si potrebbe vedere una Italia senza blackout da fine acque di raffreddamento...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Non potrebbe anche essere la soluzione del secolo per le nostre centrali elettriche che si fermano quando l&#8217;acqua dei fiumi si esaurisce?</p>
	<p>Un sistema a circolo chiuso con questi aggeggi che raffreddano tutta o solo parte dell&#8217;acqua di raffreddamento dopo l&#8217;uso e la reimmettono in circolo?</p>
	<p>In questo modo le pretese di raffreddamento di tutti gli impianti elettrici (non solo nucleari) verrebbe ridimensionata e forse si potrebbe vedere una Italia senza blackout da fine acque di raffreddamento&#8230;
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hai perfettamente ragione. E' che in alcuni siti tipo slashdog si posta &quot;copiosamente&quot; per metri e metri di pagine...

Effettivamente la cosa on-topic era la seguente frase che ripropongo: &quot;&lt;strong&gt;And Symko foresees using the devices to generate electricity from heat that now is released from nuclear power plant cooling towers.&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;

Sorry.

Cmq che ne pensi di questo add-on nella progettazione e/o modificazione delle centrali nucleari? Questo e' il sito originale:
http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=053007-1

ciao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hai perfettamente ragione. E&#8217; che in alcuni siti tipo slashdog si posta &#8220;copiosamente&#8221; per metri e metri di pagine&#8230;</p>
	<p>Effettivamente la cosa on-topic era la seguente frase che ripropongo: &#8220;<strong>And Symko foresees using the devices to generate electricity from heat that now is released from nuclear power plant cooling towers.</strong>&#8221;</p>
	<p>Sorry.</p>
	<p>Cmq che ne pensi di questo add-on nella progettazione e/o modificazione delle centrali nucleari? Questo e&#8217; il sito originale:<br />
<a href='http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=053007-1' rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href='http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=053007-1' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=053007-1</a></a></p>
	<p>ciao.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>.... consiglierei, se il materiale e' pubblicamente disponibile online, di mettere soltanto il link all'interno del commento, altrimenti  il forum diventa tutto difficilmente leggibile.

PS: direi che forse e' anche opportuno restare in topic.... 

ciao,
m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8230;. consiglierei, se il materiale e&#8217; pubblicamente disponibile online, di mettere soltanto il link all&#8217;interno del commento, altrimenti  il forum diventa tutto difficilmente leggibile.</p>
	<p>PS: direi che forse e&#8217; anche opportuno restare in topic&#8230;. </p>
	<p>ciao,<br />
m
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					<description>Vorrei anche offrirvi una piccola chicca che secondo gli autori dell'Universita' dello Utah puo' essere usata per produrre energia elettrica dai camini delle centrali atomiche (e forse, secondo me, anche dopo il sistema turbina-dinamo/condensatore dei reattori ADS):

EM {font-size:140%}
&lt;strong&gt;Source: University of Utah&lt;/strong&gt; 
Date: &lt;strong&gt;June 4, 2007&lt;/strong&gt; 

&lt;strong&gt;A Sound Way To Turn Heat Into Electricity&lt;/strong&gt;

Science Daily â€” University of Utah physicists developed small devices that turn heat into sound and then into electricity. The technology holds promise for changing waste heat into electricity, harnessing solar energy and cooling computers and radars.


(Orest Symko, a University of Utah physics professor, demonstrates a device that turns heat into sound and then into electricity -- a promising new technology for capturing heat now wasted during industrial processes and turning it into electric power. Here, Symko uses a battery, not to turn on a light bulb directly, but to heat the device in his hands. The device changes the heat to audible sound, and then converts the sound into an electric current that makes the light bulb glow faint red. Photo Credit: The University of Utah)


&quot;&lt;em&gt;We are converting waste heat to electricity in an efficient, simple way by using sound,&lt;/em&gt;&quot; says Orest Symko, a University of Utah physics professor who leads the effort. &quot;&lt;em&gt;It is a new source of renewable energy from waste heat.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Five of Symko's doctoral students recently devised methods to improve the efficiency of acoustic heat-engine devices to turn heat into electricity. They will present their findings on Friday, June 8 during the annual meeting of the Acoustical Society of America at the Hilton Salt Lake City Center hotel.

&lt;strong&gt;Symko plans to test the devices within a year to produce electricity from waste heat&lt;/strong&gt; at a military radar facility and at the university's hot-water-generating plant.

The research is funded by the U.S. Army, which is interested in &quot;taking care of waste heat from radar, and also producing a portable source of electrical energy which you can use in the battlefield to run electronics&quot; he says.

&lt;strong&gt;Symko expects the devices could be used within two years as an alternative to photovoltaic cells for converting sunlight into electricity.&lt;/strong&gt; The heat engines also could be used to cool laptop and other computers that generate more heat as their electronics grow more complex. &lt;em&gt;And Symko foresees using the devices to generate electricity from heat that now is released from nuclear power plant cooling towers.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;How to Get Power from Heat and Sound&lt;/strong&gt;

Symko's work on converting heat into electricity via sound stems from his ongoing research to develop tiny thermoacoustic refrigerators for cooling electronics.

In 2005, he began a five-year heat-sound-electricity conversion research project named Thermal Acoustic Piezo Energy Conversion (TAPEC). Symko works with collaborators at Washington State University and the University of Mississippi.

&lt;strong&gt;The project has received $2 million in funding during the past two years&lt;/strong&gt;, and Symko hopes it will grow as small heat-sound-electricity devices shrink further so they can be incorporated in micromachines (known as microelectromechanical systems, or MEMS) for use in cooling computers and other electronic devices such as amplifiers.

Using sound to convert heat into electricity has two key steps. Symko and colleagues developed various new heat engines (technically called &quot;thermoacoustic prime movers&quot;) to accomplish the first step: convert heat into sound.

Then they convert the sound into electricity using existing technology: &quot;piezoelectric&quot; devices that are squeezed in response to pressure, including sound waves, and change that pressure into electrical current. &quot;Piezo&quot; means pressure or squeezing.

Most of the heat-to-electricity acoustic devices built in Symko's laboratory are housed in cylinder-shaped &quot;resonators&quot; that fit in the palm of your hand. Each cylinder, or resonator, contains a &quot;stack&quot; of material with a large surface area -- such as metal or plastic plates, or fibers made of glass, cotton or steel wool -- placed between a cold heat exchanger and a hot heat exchanger.

&lt;strong&gt;When heat is applied -- with matches, a blowtorch or a heating element -- the heat builds to a threshold. Then the hot, moving air produces sound at a single frequency, similar to air blown into a flute.&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;You have heat, which is so disorderly and chaotic, and all of a sudden you have sound coming out at one frequency,&quot; Symko says.

Then the sound waves squeeze the piezoelectric device, producing an electrical voltage. Symko says it's similar to what happens if you hit a nerve in your elbow, producing a painful electrical nerve impulse.

Longer resonator cylinders produce lower tones, while shorter tubes produce higher-pitched tones.

&lt;em&gt;Devices that convert heat to sound and then to electricity lack moving parts, so such devices will require little maintenance and last a long time.&lt;/em&gt; They do not need to be built as precisely as, say, pistons in an engine, which loses efficiency as the pistons wear. 

Symko says the devices won't create noise pollution. First, as smaller devices are developed, they will convert heat to ultrasonic frequencies people cannot hear. Second, sound volume goes down as it is converted to electricity. Finally, &quot;it's easy to contain the noise by putting a sound absorber around the device,&quot; he says.

Studies Improve Efficiency of Acoustic Conversion of Heat to Electricity

Here are summaries of the studies by Symko's doctoral students:

-- Student Bonnie McLaughlin showed it was possible to double the efficiency of converting heat into sound by optimizing the geometry and insulation of the acoustic resonator and by injecting heat directly into the hot heat exchanger.

She built cylindrical devices 1.5 inches long and a half-inch wide, and worked to improve how much heat was converted to sound rather than escaping. As little as a 90-degree Fahrenheit temperature difference between hot and cold heat exchangers produced sound. Some devices produced sound at 135 decibels -- as loud as a jackhammer.

-- Student Nick Webb showed that by pressurizing the air in a similar-sized resonator, it was able to produce more sound, and thus more electricity.

He also showed that by increasing air pressure, a smaller temperature difference between heat exchangers is needed for heat to begin converting into sound. That makes it practical to use the acoustic devices to cool laptop computers and other electronics that emit relatively small amounts of waste heat, Symko says.

-- Numerous heat-to-sound-to-electricity devices will be needed to harness solar power or to cool large, industrial sources of waste heat. Student Brenna Gillman learned how to get the devices -- mounted together to form an array -- to work together.

For an array to efficiently convert heat to sound and electricity, its individual devices must be &quot;coupled&quot; to produce the same frequency of sound and vibrate in sync.

Gillman used various metals to build supports to hold five of the devices at once. She found the devices could be synchronized if a support was made of a less dense metal such as aluminum and, more important, if the ratio of the support's weight to the array's total weight fell within a specific range. The devices could be synchronized even better if they were &quot;coupled&quot; when their sound waves interacted in an air cavity in the support.

-- Student Ivan Rodriguez used a different approach in building an acoustic device to convert heat to electricity. Instead of a cylinder, he built a resonator from a quarter-inch-diameter hollow steel tube bent to form a ring about 1.3 inches across.

In cylinder-shaped resonators, sound waves bounce against the ends of the cylinder. But when heat is applied to Rodriguez's ring-shaped resonator, sound waves keep circling through the device with nothing to reflect them.

Symko says the ring-shaped device is twice as efficient as cylindrical devices in converting heat into sound and electricity. That is because the pressure and speed of air in the ring-shaped device are always in sync, unlike in cylinder-shaped devices.

-- Student Myra Flitcroft designed a cylinder-shaped heat engine one-third the size of the other devices. It is less than half as wide as a penny, producing a much higher pitch than the other resonators. When heated, the device generated sound at 120 decibels -- the level produced by a siren or a rock concert.

&quot;It's an extremely small thermoacoustic device -- one of the smallest built -- and it opens the way for producing them in an array,&quot; Symko says.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University of Utah.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070603225026.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ScienceDaily&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Vorrei anche offrirvi una piccola chicca che secondo gli autori dell&#8217;Universita&#8217; dello Utah puo&#8217; essere usata per produrre energia elettrica dai camini delle centrali atomiche (e forse, secondo me, anche dopo il sistema turbina-dinamo/condensatore dei reattori ADS):</p>
	<p>EM {font-size:140%}<br />
<strong>Source: University of Utah</strong><br />
Date: <strong>June 4, 2007</strong> </p>
	<p><strong>A Sound Way To Turn Heat Into Electricity</strong></p>
	<p>Science Daily â€” University of Utah physicists developed small devices that turn heat into sound and then into electricity. The technology holds promise for changing waste heat into electricity, harnessing solar energy and cooling computers and radars.</p>
	<p>(Orest Symko, a University of Utah physics professor, demonstrates a device that turns heat into sound and then into electricity &#8212; a promising new technology for capturing heat now wasted during industrial processes and turning it into electric power. Here, Symko uses a battery, not to turn on a light bulb directly, but to heat the device in his hands. The device changes the heat to audible sound, and then converts the sound into an electric current that makes the light bulb glow faint red. Photo Credit: The University of Utah)</p>
	<p>&#8220;<em>We are converting waste heat to electricity in an efficient, simple way by using sound,</em>&#8221; says Orest Symko, a University of Utah physics professor who leads the effort. &#8220;<em>It is a new source of renewable energy from waste heat.</em>&#8221;</p>
	<p>Five of Symko&#8217;s doctoral students recently devised methods to improve the efficiency of acoustic heat-engine devices to turn heat into electricity. They will present their findings on Friday, June 8 during the annual meeting of the Acoustical Society of America at the Hilton Salt Lake City Center hotel.</p>
	<p><strong>Symko plans to test the devices within a year to produce electricity from waste heat</strong> at a military radar facility and at the university&#8217;s hot-water-generating plant.</p>
	<p>The research is funded by the U.S. Army, which is interested in &#8220;taking care of waste heat from radar, and also producing a portable source of electrical energy which you can use in the battlefield to run electronics&#8221; he says.</p>
	<p><strong>Symko expects the devices could be used within two years as an alternative to photovoltaic cells for converting sunlight into electricity.</strong> The heat engines also could be used to cool laptop and other computers that generate more heat as their electronics grow more complex. <em>And Symko foresees using the devices to generate electricity from heat that now is released from nuclear power plant cooling towers.</em></p>
	<p><strong>How to Get Power from Heat and Sound</strong></p>
	<p>Symko&#8217;s work on converting heat into electricity via sound stems from his ongoing research to develop tiny thermoacoustic refrigerators for cooling electronics.</p>
	<p>In 2005, he began a five-year heat-sound-electricity conversion research project named Thermal Acoustic Piezo Energy Conversion (TAPEC). Symko works with collaborators at Washington State University and the University of Mississippi.</p>
	<p><strong>The project has received $2 million in funding during the past two years</strong>, and Symko hopes it will grow as small heat-sound-electricity devices shrink further so they can be incorporated in micromachines (known as microelectromechanical systems, or MEMS) for use in cooling computers and other electronic devices such as amplifiers.</p>
	<p>Using sound to convert heat into electricity has two key steps. Symko and colleagues developed various new heat engines (technically called &#8220;thermoacoustic prime movers&#8221;) to accomplish the first step: convert heat into sound.</p>
	<p>Then they convert the sound into electricity using existing technology: &#8220;piezoelectric&#8221; devices that are squeezed in response to pressure, including sound waves, and change that pressure into electrical current. &#8220;Piezo&#8221; means pressure or squeezing.</p>
	<p>Most of the heat-to-electricity acoustic devices built in Symko&#8217;s laboratory are housed in cylinder-shaped &#8220;resonators&#8221; that fit in the palm of your hand. Each cylinder, or resonator, contains a &#8220;stack&#8221; of material with a large surface area &#8212; such as metal or plastic plates, or fibers made of glass, cotton or steel wool &#8212; placed between a cold heat exchanger and a hot heat exchanger.</p>
	<p><strong>When heat is applied &#8212; with matches, a blowtorch or a heating element &#8212; the heat builds to a threshold. Then the hot, moving air produces sound at a single frequency, similar to air blown into a flute.</strong></p>
	<p>&#8220;You have heat, which is so disorderly and chaotic, and all of a sudden you have sound coming out at one frequency,&#8221; Symko says.</p>
	<p>Then the sound waves squeeze the piezoelectric device, producing an electrical voltage. Symko says it&#8217;s similar to what happens if you hit a nerve in your elbow, producing a painful electrical nerve impulse.</p>
	<p>Longer resonator cylinders produce lower tones, while shorter tubes produce higher-pitched tones.</p>
	<p><em>Devices that convert heat to sound and then to electricity lack moving parts, so such devices will require little maintenance and last a long time.</em> They do not need to be built as precisely as, say, pistons in an engine, which loses efficiency as the pistons wear. </p>
	<p>Symko says the devices won&#8217;t create noise pollution. First, as smaller devices are developed, they will convert heat to ultrasonic frequencies people cannot hear. Second, sound volume goes down as it is converted to electricity. Finally, &#8220;it&#8217;s easy to contain the noise by putting a sound absorber around the device,&#8221; he says.</p>
	<p>Studies Improve Efficiency of Acoustic Conversion of Heat to Electricity</p>
	<p>Here are summaries of the studies by Symko&#8217;s doctoral students:</p>
	<p>&#8211; Student Bonnie McLaughlin showed it was possible to double the efficiency of converting heat into sound by optimizing the geometry and insulation of the acoustic resonator and by injecting heat directly into the hot heat exchanger.</p>
	<p>She built cylindrical devices 1.5 inches long and a half-inch wide, and worked to improve how much heat was converted to sound rather than escaping. As little as a 90-degree Fahrenheit temperature difference between hot and cold heat exchangers produced sound. Some devices produced sound at 135 decibels &#8212; as loud as a jackhammer.</p>
	<p>&#8211; Student Nick Webb showed that by pressurizing the air in a similar-sized resonator, it was able to produce more sound, and thus more electricity.</p>
	<p>He also showed that by increasing air pressure, a smaller temperature difference between heat exchangers is needed for heat to begin converting into sound. That makes it practical to use the acoustic devices to cool laptop computers and other electronics that emit relatively small amounts of waste heat, Symko says.</p>
	<p>&#8211; Numerous heat-to-sound-to-electricity devices will be needed to harness solar power or to cool large, industrial sources of waste heat. Student Brenna Gillman learned how to get the devices &#8212; mounted together to form an array &#8212; to work together.</p>
	<p>For an array to efficiently convert heat to sound and electricity, its individual devices must be &#8220;coupled&#8221; to produce the same frequency of sound and vibrate in sync.</p>
	<p>Gillman used various metals to build supports to hold five of the devices at once. She found the devices could be synchronized if a support was made of a less dense metal such as aluminum and, more important, if the ratio of the support&#8217;s weight to the array&#8217;s total weight fell within a specific range. The devices could be synchronized even better if they were &#8220;coupled&#8221; when their sound waves interacted in an air cavity in the support.</p>
	<p>&#8211; Student Ivan Rodriguez used a different approach in building an acoustic device to convert heat to electricity. Instead of a cylinder, he built a resonator from a quarter-inch-diameter hollow steel tube bent to form a ring about 1.3 inches across.</p>
	<p>In cylinder-shaped resonators, sound waves bounce against the ends of the cylinder. But when heat is applied to Rodriguez&#8217;s ring-shaped resonator, sound waves keep circling through the device with nothing to reflect them.</p>
	<p>Symko says the ring-shaped device is twice as efficient as cylindrical devices in converting heat into sound and electricity. That is because the pressure and speed of air in the ring-shaped device are always in sync, unlike in cylinder-shaped devices.</p>
	<p>&#8211; Student Myra Flitcroft designed a cylinder-shaped heat engine one-third the size of the other devices. It is less than half as wide as a penny, producing a much higher pitch than the other resonators. When heated, the device generated sound at 120 decibels &#8212; the level produced by a siren or a rock concert.</p>
	<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s an extremely small thermoacoustic device &#8212; one of the smallest built &#8212; and it opens the way for producing them in an array,&#8221; Symko says.</p>
	<p>Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University of Utah.</p>
	<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070603225026.htm" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ScienceDaily</a>
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					<description>Grazie</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Lo sfruttamento delle risorse del sottosuolo e l&#8217; ipotesi di produrre metalli preziosi bruciando le scorie radioattive by: Marco Calviani</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ciao,
  soltanto due parole relative alle domande di Pietruccio, ma prima una piccola nota di &quot;colore&quot;. Il programma ATW e' stato creato dal DOE come operazione di &quot;backup&quot; per salvaguardare le ricerche che erano state fatte per il programma APT (Accelerator Production of Tritium, elemento che, come sapete benissimo, e' utilizzato nelle testare termonucleari o nelle boosted a fissione); poi nel 1998 il segretario all'Energia Bill Richardson decidette di assegnare ai due rettori nucleari civili (generando un pericoloso precedente di &quot;mescolamento&quot; di tecnologia militare e civile, che tuttavia perdura ancora oggi), Watts Bar e Sequoyah (Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)), il compito di produrre il trizio. Questo per dire che i &quot;design specification&quot; dell'acceleratore ATW vanno presi con le &quot;molle&quot;.

Per quando riguarda il processo di spallazione: gli yield neutronici a cui facciamo riferimento quando parliamo degli ADS devono essere necessariamente riferiti a target &quot;spessi&quot; (riferiti nelle pubblicazioni come &quot;thick target&quot;). Il valore a cui si riferisce Pietruccio e' una media relativa ad una interazione p+Pb in cui il processo di cascade non ha avuto interamente luogo [1]. Affinche' la cascata iniziale sia &quot;fully contained&quot; e' necessario che le dimensioni del target siano sufficientemente grandi: in questo caso, come si evince da [2], per un fascio di protoni da 1.6 GeV siamo vicini al valore di 40 a cui si riferisce digit, e ai valori predetti da codici che contengono modelli INC, vicini a 30 n/(p)/GeV per un target 100cm*150cm. 
Come esempio vi porto il target di n_TOF che, con delle dimensioni di 80*80*60cm, pur non lavorando in modalita' continua (meno male!), produce un fascio molto intenso di neutroni con un fascio di protoni (del PS al CERN) di 20 GeV/c, con una resa di circa 300 neutroni/protoni incidenti.


Brevemente riporto anche quali, secondo Nifenecker e Meplan, dovrebbero essere i due &quot;requirements&quot; principali per un acceleratore in grado di &quot;guidare&quot; un sottocritico da 1GWth:
1) energia del fascio di protoni &amp;#62;= 600 MeV (al fine di ottimizzare i numero di neutroni prodotti per protone incidente)
2) la potenza del fascio deve essere dell'ordine dei 10MW

Consiglierei quindi di non concentrarsi troppo sul design di ATW, che e' abbastanza &quot;antiquato&quot; per quanto riguarda i design specifications.

[1] Filges D, Eur. Phys. J. A 11 (2001), 467  
[2] Hilscher D, Nucl. Instr. Meth., A414 100, 1998

A presto,
Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ciao,<br />
  soltanto due parole relative alle domande di Pietruccio, ma prima una piccola nota di &#8220;colore&#8221;. Il programma ATW e&#8217; stato creato dal DOE come operazione di &#8220;backup&#8221; per salvaguardare le ricerche che erano state fatte per il programma APT (Accelerator Production of Tritium, elemento che, come sapete benissimo, e&#8217; utilizzato nelle testare termonucleari o nelle boosted a fissione); poi nel 1998 il segretario all&#8217;Energia Bill Richardson decidette di assegnare ai due rettori nucleari civili (generando un pericoloso precedente di &#8220;mescolamento&#8221; di tecnologia militare e civile, che tuttavia perdura ancora oggi), Watts Bar e Sequoyah (Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)), il compito di produrre il trizio. Questo per dire che i &#8220;design specification&#8221; dell&#8217;acceleratore ATW vanno presi con le &#8220;molle&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Per quando riguarda il processo di spallazione: gli yield neutronici a cui facciamo riferimento quando parliamo degli ADS devono essere necessariamente riferiti a target &#8220;spessi&#8221; (riferiti nelle pubblicazioni come &#8220;thick target&#8221;). Il valore a cui si riferisce Pietruccio e&#8217; una media relativa ad una interazione p+Pb in cui il processo di cascade non ha avuto interamente luogo [1]. Affinche&#8217; la cascata iniziale sia &#8220;fully contained&#8221; e&#8217; necessario che le dimensioni del target siano sufficientemente grandi: in questo caso, come si evince da [2], per un fascio di protoni da 1.6 GeV siamo vicini al valore di 40 a cui si riferisce digit, e ai valori predetti da codici che contengono modelli INC, vicini a 30 n/(p)/GeV per un target 100cm*150cm.<br />
Come esempio vi porto il target di n_TOF che, con delle dimensioni di 80*80*60cm, pur non lavorando in modalita&#8217; continua (meno male!), produce un fascio molto intenso di neutroni con un fascio di protoni (del PS al CERN) di 20 GeV/c, con una resa di circa 300 neutroni/protoni incidenti.</p>
	<p>Brevemente riporto anche quali, secondo Nifenecker e Meplan, dovrebbero essere i due &#8220;requirements&#8221; principali per un acceleratore in grado di &#8220;guidare&#8221; un sottocritico da 1GWth:<br />
1) energia del fascio di protoni &gt;= 600 MeV (al fine di ottimizzare i numero di neutroni prodotti per protone incidente)<br />
2) la potenza del fascio deve essere dell&#8217;ordine dei 10MW</p>
	<p>Consiglierei quindi di non concentrarsi troppo sul design di ATW, che e&#8217; abbastanza &#8220;antiquato&#8221; per quanto riguarda i design specifications.</p>
	<p>[1] Filges D, Eur. Phys. J. A 11 (2001), 467<br />
[2] Hilscher D, Nucl. Instr. Meth., A414 100, 1998</p>
	<p>A presto,<br />
Marco
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 		<title>Comment on Lo sfruttamento delle risorse del sottosuolo e l&#8217; ipotesi di produrre metalli preziosi bruciando le scorie radioattive by: Pietruccio</title>
		<link>http://www.archivionucleare.com/index.php/2007/06/13/sfruttamento-risorse-metalli-preziosi/#comment-7127</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Help

&lt;em&gt;The neutron production from a lead target is about 40 neutrons per incident proton for a 1600 MeV beam (the reference beam is usually 1600 MeV and 250 mA). It can be seen from a simple calculation that the spallation reaction will produce a large neutron flux around the target: 
(40 n/p)x(.250 A)x(1 C/As)x(1 p/1.6x10-19 C) = 6.25x10+19 neutrons per second&lt;/em&gt;

I conti non mi tornano. Dove sto sbagliando?

Se consideriamo che un reattore da 3000MW termici dÃ  origine a 9.4E19 reazioni al secondo (perchÃ© ogni fissione fornisce circa 200MeV=3.2E-11 J) questo fascio darebbe 6.3E19/9.4E19=67% dei neutroni necessari. Poi Ã¨ chiaro che molti vanno persi, non tutti possono dare la reazione che vogliamo noi perchÃ© possono essere catturati, ci sarebbe bisogno di averli distribuiti su ampio volume, mentre il fascio Ã¨ troppo concentrato ecc... (mille problemi, direi) ma con quei valori non siamo apparentemente a distanze astronomiche dal numeri che ci servono. SenonchÃ¨â€¦


1) 40 neutroni per protone da 1600MeV incidente in Pb mi sembrano eccessivi. Dai dati che ho trovato io direi che siamo piÃ¹ vicini ai 20.

2) Un fascio da 0.25/1.6E19 = 1.6E18 protoni al secondo ciascuno dotato di 1600MeV=2.6E-10 J comporta una potenza di 1.6E18*2.6E-10 = 4.2E8W peri a 420 MW che fornisce lâ€™acceleratore che (di acceleratori non me ne intendo) consumerÃ  sicuramente di piÃ¹. Quanto non lo so ma siamo davvero su cifre astronomiche. Non solo, ma quellâ€™energia verrebbe lanciata sul piombo fuso e cosa fa? Unâ€™atomica?

3) Lâ€™articolo sul Megapie del gennaio 2007 cita un ciclotrone del Paul Scherrer Institute da un MW come â€œil piÃ¹ potente al mondoâ€. Ho la sensazione che quello sullâ€™articolo degli ATW da 420 MW sia solo un valore di riferimento tanto per fare i conti (niente di realmente esistente?)

4) Anche quando si parla dellâ€™EA si parla di un ciclotrone che dovrebbe assorbire 20 MW (siamo lontani dai 420 MW dellâ€™ATW)</description>
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	<p><em>The neutron production from a lead target is about 40 neutrons per incident proton for a 1600 MeV beam (the reference beam is usually 1600 MeV and 250 mA). It can be seen from a simple calculation that the spallation reaction will produce a large neutron flux around the target:<br />
(40 n/p)x(.250 A)x(1 C/As)x(1 p/1.6&#215;10-19 C) = 6.25&#215;10+19 neutrons per second</em></p>
	<p>I conti non mi tornano. Dove sto sbagliando?</p>
	<p>Se consideriamo che un reattore da 3000MW termici dÃ  origine a 9.4E19 reazioni al secondo (perchÃ© ogni fissione fornisce circa 200MeV=3.2E-11 J) questo fascio darebbe 6.3E19/9.4E19=67% dei neutroni necessari. Poi Ã¨ chiaro che molti vanno persi, non tutti possono dare la reazione che vogliamo noi perchÃ© possono essere catturati, ci sarebbe bisogno di averli distribuiti su ampio volume, mentre il fascio Ã¨ troppo concentrato ecc&#8230; (mille problemi, direi) ma con quei valori non siamo apparentemente a distanze astronomiche dal numeri che ci servono. SenonchÃ¨â€¦</p>
	<p>1) 40 neutroni per protone da 1600MeV incidente in Pb mi sembrano eccessivi. Dai dati che ho trovato io direi che siamo piÃ¹ vicini ai 20.</p>
	<p>2) Un fascio da 0.25/1.6E19 = 1.6E18 protoni al secondo ciascuno dotato di 1600MeV=2.6E-10 J comporta una potenza di 1.6E18*2.6E-10 = 4.2E8W peri a 420 MW che fornisce lâ€™acceleratore che (di acceleratori non me ne intendo) consumerÃ  sicuramente di piÃ¹. Quanto non lo so ma siamo davvero su cifre astronomiche. Non solo, ma quellâ€™energia verrebbe lanciata sul piombo fuso e cosa fa? Unâ€™atomica?</p>
	<p>3) Lâ€™articolo sul Megapie del gennaio 2007 cita un ciclotrone del Paul Scherrer Institute da un MW come â€œil piÃ¹ potente al mondoâ€. Ho la sensazione che quello sullâ€™articolo degli ATW da 420 MW sia solo un valore di riferimento tanto per fare i conti (niente di realmente esistente?)</p>
	<p>4) Anche quando si parla dellâ€™EA si parla di un ciclotrone che dovrebbe assorbire 20 MW (siamo lontani dai 420 MW dellâ€™ATW)
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 		<title>Comment on Lo sfruttamento delle risorse del sottosuolo e l&#8217; ipotesi di produrre metalli preziosi bruciando le scorie radioattive by: digit</title>
		<link>http://www.archivionucleare.com/index.php/2007/06/13/sfruttamento-risorse-metalli-preziosi/#comment-7079</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>grazie gauss2.

C'e' una &lt;strong&gt;Doctoral thesis&lt;/strong&gt; in formato PDF di 5 MB del 2 Febbraio 2007 &lt;strong&gt;sulla sicurezza degli ADSR&lt;/strong&gt;. Ti interessa? Il link del PDF e':

http://repository.tudelft.nl/file/496235/372045

Il titolo e':
Ceballos Castillo, C.A., Multidisciplinary design approach and safety analysis of ADSR cooled by buoyancy driven flows; 2007-02-05

Buona lettura e buona serata a tutti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>grazie gauss2.</p>
	<p>C&#8217;e&#8217; una <strong>Doctoral thesis</strong> in formato PDF di 5 MB del 2 Febbraio 2007 <strong>sulla sicurezza degli ADSR</strong>. Ti interessa? Il link del PDF e&#8217;:</p>
	<p><a href='http://repository.tudelft.nl/file/496235/372045' rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href='http://repository.tudelft.nl/file/496235/372045' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://repository.tudelft.nl/file/496235/372045</a></a></p>
	<p>Il titolo e&#8217;:<br />
Ceballos Castillo, C.A., Multidisciplinary design approach and safety analysis of ADSR cooled by buoyancy driven flows; 2007-02-05</p>
	<p>Buona lettura e buona serata a tutti.
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